Community Question.

[JAGeBoyle]

How should we handle resignations?

Under a normal resignation they are auto set to community and able to keep in touch. This was the policy we used when a member left jag usually because they stopped playing a game we supported or were going away...

Recently we have come to see this reason

Im quiting jag cs to join another clans cs but we still want to be community.



I am on the fence about it personally. I think changing a member from JAGe to community should only be done for a good reason. I dont think joining another clan is that reason.

Am I being anal or am I right?

[JAGeGodfather]

Well, there are some circumstances where they still want to play other games with us and want to join a clan for another game. I say if that's the point, then community, but if it's that way, then just do whatever you have to do, they are basically leaving us for another group and means that they don't want to talk to us anymore, so let's help them out by closing their accounts

[JAGeConvict]

um u got my vote for this 1 boyie

[JAGeHomey]

they will be /cut in half

[Fanlaen]

Welcome to what I said a year ago, stupid. :D

[JAGeBoyle]

We never had a problem with the "open door" policy but Im seeing it being abused more and more now.

[JAGeHomey]

/cut ftw ... if that dont work .. kickoz of the nooboz.

[JAGeScimitar]

We are a open community and are open to all gamers. If they were once a JAG member and decided to leave no clan is turned away as a community member here at JAG.

This policy should not change. I dont believe in closing our doors. If they brake a rule as a community member.

If a member is banned they can not hold a community account but if they resign that was their choice and we can not do anything to them except the decision.

[Infinity]

Im an abuser, rofl.

[JAGeBoyle]

All things are always subject to change just like this problem. Community accounts have never been a problem till its now being used to "join a clan for a game they were supposed to be recruiting and building here but stay a member of jag" its double clanning without the exact definition....

[JaGe Lee Harvey Oswald]

yeah changing to community but going off with another clan, to me at least, is completely disrespectful

theyre trying to play both sides of the fence

while keeping both parties happy with their appearence

if they play a game such as cs 1.6 and theyre going to go community to be more active in a game such as DoD or WoW in another clan, then that seems acceptable, as long as they keep in touch

but if they play 1.6 and go community to play 1.6 in another clan, they should have their account closed

they're pulling a john kerry people

cant ya see it :P

[BritishBullDog]

Yeh you got my vote on this one too Boyle, although it probably doesn't matter :P it sounds fair to me though :)

[JAGeBoyle]

It does matter. Everyones opinions matter. I really hope someone who disagrees with this posts. Im always open to change my mind or my opinion.

[JAGeShadow]

Well, I think that if the person doesn't feel like JAGe has everything they want from a clan and wants to switch I think they should still be able to be in community, maybe they have friends here and enjoy the discussions here. It really depends on the situation, how they leave. If they're being an idiot and saying something like "This clan sucks I'm going to switch." obviously they shouldn't be let into community, but if they feel like they've found another clan that's better suited for them I don't think that they should be cut off completely just because they're not in JAGe.

[JAGeBoyle]

My main arguement is HOW THEY LEAVE. I dont like lies and I dont like bullshiting...

To say they leave jag wc3 because nobody plays they all went to wow is a bold face lie. Not one WC3 member went to wow.... To add insult to this excuse I read him asking this new clan which server he should join when he gets wow lol...

[JAGekillerclown]

They left for there own reason they didnt bash double clan nor did they steal peoples accounts. so why would you close the doors on them so they cant stay in touch with ex clan members.. doesnt make any sense, sounds like to me your mad cause your section is leaving to go to a more active clan. its not our falt your 1.6 section stopped playing because of no matches in cal so obviously there gonna wanna play with a more active clan.

[JAGeBoyle]

Your confused and listening to your brother.

Im not mad they left infact the wc3 section had what 4 ppl who played? Its the way people leave. EVERY member who has left and pm'd me telling me truth I have never had a problem setting to community. Its when they make bullshit excuses or totally lie that it pisses me off.

SA is NOT active and stock piling BAD players does not make a clan active and good.

[JAGekillerclown]

wrong once again i am not listening to my brother i posted by what i have read.
they did not lie nor make bullshit reasons they posted how they felt simple as that. that was there opinion. facet your mad cause you have lost several members to another clan get over your not the best not every one is gonna follow you. you just wanna start drama and problems but its you opinion so think what you want but your gonna be wrong no matter what. oh yeah a good clan is not a group of e-thugs and good cs players it is a group of people who have fun and dont fight.

[Infinity]

Some of this seems like it could be indrectly pointing towards myself about being community. Yes, I left 1.6 for several reasons to which Boyle and I have discussed amongst ourselves which he understands.

Although I did leave JAG not because I didn't want to be involved with the 1.6 guys, but because I wanted to join a new clan with my real life friends. You've all heard it many times one way or another with myself going community.

The only for me to still be "friendly" with JAG was to go community because according to the rules, any game that JAG supports you must justify it by using the tag. So for me to go join my real life friends would make it impossible to be here without breaking a rule. Doesnt really matter now because they don't even play anymore...

Anyways, to sum all of this up, I just want to say even though I am community I still highly represent you through WoW and was and still am one of your most active users. With being said what do you propose happening to me?

[JAGekillerclown]

Dont mix the defenition of a good cal team with a good clan

[JAGeBoyle]

they did not lie

When did you get access to my pm box?


you have lost several members to another clan get over your not the best not every one is gonna follow you. you just wanna start drama and problems but its you opinion so think what you want but your gonna be wrong no matter what. oh yeah a good clan is not a group of e-thugs and good cs players it is a group of people who have fun and dont fight.

I LOST INACTIVE MEMBERS and trouble makers. I dont care about most who left.

Chink being the only active member that didnt start trouble or lie.
Adam was active but was a HUGE trouble maker.
You didnt start trouble, not the most active but were around alot.

Everyone else was bad or inactive. They will be active for a week or 2 for you guys and then slowly fall off the side of the world..... its flat you know.

[JAGeBoyle]

Infinity does not fall under this proposal. He clearly told me he was joining another team and why. This is the point

I DONT WANT TO BE LIED TO WHEN SOMEONE LEAVES.

I sent them pm's asking them what their intentions were just recently and I was told they werent going to SA.... Then the resignation comes without mention of SA but I check the SA forums and see they already had registered and their server was listed..... Hmm sounds like some bullshit to me.


WHAT DOES IT MATTER IF JAG IS NO GOOD THEN GTFO.

[JAGekillerclown]

for starters i didnt say jag was no good. and second the day they registered to the sight they resigned as far as i know. and if you didnt notice there resign stated why they left. so i see no problem as to why they cant remain community they have not caused any harm or broke a rule in any way they didnt not join sa till they posted there res. they respectfully posted they were leaving and didnt trash talk you nor jag in any way. So why the whole issue with them is beyond me but im no longer in jag so its not up to me i just hope that my opinion is taken into consideration and the right choice is made.

and i never said taht infinity shouldnt be community i believe he should be, being he told you why and did inform instead of just leaving for no reason and not saying anything. im not trying to start anything nor tell you how to run things im just stating my opinion and thoughts on the situation and if you want i will gtfo cause i am not a dumb ass kid and spam i will just walkm away i see no purpose to argue over this shit even though i like to argue lawl.

[JAGeBoyle]

my gtfo wasnt toward you.

Also I asked them if they were leaving and I was told no... this was just recently.

[JAGekillerclown]

you probably talked to them when they where undecided. so therefore they would have told you no.

[JAGeBoyle]

I talked to them 1 day before the post. And during the post. All responses were No were not going to SA "Adam is a dick for what he did with the wc3 server before"

I believed them. If they would of said Were going to SA I wouldnt be pissed. Lying to me and posting a BS excuse as to why they are leaving then going completely against that excuse in their first posts on SA.... About wow.

[Munkey]

Well, there are some circumstances where they still want to play other games with us and want to join a clan for another game. I say if that's the point, then community, but if it's that way, then just do whatever you have to do, they are basically leaving us for another group and means that they don't want to talk to us anymore, so let's help them out by closing their accounts

I agree .... if they still play other games with us, they should be allowed to have a community account. But, if the person was a good help to JaG or was just a good person throughout his/her time here, I think it would be ok to still let them have a community account.

[JAGeConvict]

I wanted to join a new clan with my real life friends.

Sure buddy boy


So for me to go join my real life friends would make it impossible to be here without breaking a rule.

SURE like u never broke a rule i smell bullshit


Doesnt really matter now because they don't even play anymore...

hmmmm didnt i tell this to someone that he would be trying to get back in, in a few months just give him time. he wants back in he just doesnt want to say it cuz he knows what will happen. INFINITY IS SO LONELY, SO LONELY HES NOBODY ON HIS OWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[JAGeDurf]

in my opinion you should all get a life and stop worrying about shit so much lool and the answer to the question is who cares? let them stay let em go idc i'm voting neither lol
-DURFY

[JAGeConvict]

yo why dont u get a life and stop worrying about our shit some much lol the answer to ur question is stfu? if u dont care why u posting
im voting gtfo lol
-Convict

[JaGe Lee Harvey Oswald]

i thought this matter was over with?

everyone just put it down, and step away

[JAGeHomey]

Well, I think that if the person doesn't feel like JAGe has everything they want from a clan and wants to switch I think they should still be able to be in community, maybe they have friends here and enjoy the discussions here. It really depends on the situation, how they leave. If they're being an idiot and saying something like "This clan sucks I'm going to switch." obviously they shouldn't be let into community, but if they feel like they've found another clan that's better suited for them I don't think that they should be cut off completely just because they're not in JAGe.


Sounds like you're pulling an Infinity.

[JAGeShadow]

I don't know exactly what has been going on that brought this up, all I'm saying is that if the person's a jerk don't let them in community, if they're a good person then do let them in. Like boyle said people had been lying to him about why they left, there should be no reason for that. If people clearly say that they are leaving for a specific reason then why should you keep them from community? I think it really just depends on how the person has acted and the way they left, that's just kinda common sense.

[Toto]

People who leave will get their accounts pruned.
So if they value their account, they will stay.