Vrgo
01-30-2008, 06:54 PM
ELEMENTAL
Best site to use item wise pre raid for items http://www.wow-loot.com/shaman.htm
build i've found to work for me best
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/shaman/talents.html?5501010503001535105100000000000000000 000005005311005000000000
Starting:
Kara - around 550 dmg / 20% crit
SSC - 700 dmg / 30% crit
Further - 800 dmg / 35% crit
Other:
You are ready for an encounter while competing with the upper half of dps'ing classes (having not to bomb, clique on cubes, banish, sheep, interrupt spells) and not running oom around at 50% boss hp spamming free rang 1 lb to procc a clearcast while chainjugging with a full bar of consumeables and buffs.
Hint: It might be really usefull, getting you all the heroic items and heroic drops, wearing mail and a shield, surving at least 1 common hit.
Here are some more or less easily obtainable items..
Helm: Shamanistic Helmet of Second Sight - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31107 - Quest
Neck: Brooch of Heightened Potential - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28134 - Shadow Lab
Shoulder: Pauldrons of Wild Magic - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32078 - Slave Pens HC
Chest: Worldfire Chestguard - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28391 - Arcatraz
Back: Shawl of Shifting Probabilities - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29369 - 25 badges
Bracer: Marshal's Mail Bracers - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28992 - Zerging PvP
Gloves: Thundercaller's Gauntlets - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31280 - 20g boe drop
Waist: Marshal's Mail Girdle - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28993 - Zerging PvP
Legs:Stormsong Kilt - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30541 - The Underbog HC
Feet: Marshal's Mail Sabatons - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28994 - Zerging PvP
Weapon: Gavel of Unearthed Secrets - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30832 - Lower City exalted
Shield: Mazthoril Honor Shield - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29268 - 33 badges
Finger1: Ring of Cryptic Dreams - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29367 - 25 badges
Finger2: Ring of Unrelenting Storms - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30667 - Karazhan random drop
Trinket1: Shiffar's Nexus-Horn - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28418 - Arcatraz
Trinket2: Icon of the Silver Crescent - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29370 - 41 badges
Totem: Totem of the Pulsing Earth - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29389 - 15 badges
or Totem of the Void - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28248 - Mechanar
Sum Up (assuming properly socketed): over 300 crit rating (13.xx% crit), over 700 spelldmg, a bunch of stam and int, around 20 spell penetration and spellhit (1.8x%). This should really do it for anything up untill deep SSC/TE (there are so many other options for some slots, just start browsing wowhead yourself and get those you are willing to spend time farming for). And all this without spending a single dkp
You should allways try to stay at high crit chance, because it's your only relieable manaregen source except chain jugging potions. Higher numbers may look awesome, but won't prevent you from getting oom.
Those numbers may not look that high, but there are some points, other could not think about while comparing:
- you receive 9% spellhit only from talents, another 3% from your totem of wrath (as well as 4 other members of your group)
- you receive 10% spellcrit only from your talents, another 3% from your totem of wrath (as well as 4 other members of your group)
- you receive over 100 spelldmg from your totem, as well as 4 other members of your group
- you have an increased critical strike bonus by 100%
Ending up with "easily" reaching 1000 spelldamage, 14% hit, 40% crit with good raiding gear for high and substainable damage and incredible (caster)group boosting options.
Is it worth it to level Dragonscale Leatherworking to 375 for the nether set, or will T4/Kara loot be better?
It's worth it. There really aren't good replacements for the Belt and Bracer slot, and the chestpiece is comparable to the T4 one, and gets you the +23 spell damage bonus.
To be honest though, my favorite part of the Netherstrike set is the hefty chunk of MP5 it comes with.
If you want to raid as an elemental shaman, picking up leather working for the Netherstrike set and the Hurricane Boots is a very good decision since you will not replace any of Netherstrike or Hurricane Boots for a long time. I would get started leveling leather working as soon as you can because it can be a pain to level once you get into the 350 area and any head start is nice.
Spell Pen?
Spell Penetration is totally and completely worthless in PVE and has never been proven to be useful in a single encounter.
On another note do not be worried to use cloth or leather items (Mostly cloth) if you do not have mail at hand.
Rotation theory
LB Spam over 60 seconds.
30 Casts of LB - 1442 DPS over 60 seconds.
LB/LB/LB/CL rotation over 60 seconds.
22 casts of LB & 10 casts of CL - 1574 dps over 59 seconds.
FS/LB/LB/LB/LB/LB/LB rotation over 60 seconds.
25 casts of LB & 5 casts of FS - 1475 dps over 57.5 seconds (When I added an extra LB, the DPS dropped to 1474 if someone with more time could look at why this happens on the spreadsheet I would be greatful)
Working on an feasible rotation for CL&FS integrated into LB spam, Spreadsheet is kicking out 1607 dps for a rotation containing 18 LBs, 10 CL's and 5 FS's over 58.5 seconds. Just need a bit of time to calculate when its possible to add in the CL&FS's. It does look to be a higher dmg rotation, however it looks like we'd have a hunter-style pain trying to weave these into the rotation (CL having to be cast on CD, and FS as soon as the DoT portion is finished), the may result in the loss of regular LB casts.
Also, the MPS is coming out at 228, which 1140Mp5 resulting in OOM in only 40seconds without Mp5 gear/Raid buffs. hmm.. maybe not possible to keep that sort of mana drain up for long - I'll work out exactly how long it's possible for me with full raid buffs to keep this up later, Although to be perfectly honest, the hassle this will cause in a raid enviroment, may result in more 'dropped' spells due to movement, lag, lack of mana etc etc. for only an extra 33dps. (Hmm, that would be pretty noticeable) - Watch this space.
Bare in mind that thoose dps numbers were pulled with 1000 spell damage and 42 % crit.
Best site to use item wise pre raid for items http://www.wow-loot.com/shaman.htm
build i've found to work for me best
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/shaman/talents.html?5501010503001535105100000000000000000 000005005311005000000000
Starting:
Kara - around 550 dmg / 20% crit
SSC - 700 dmg / 30% crit
Further - 800 dmg / 35% crit
Other:
You are ready for an encounter while competing with the upper half of dps'ing classes (having not to bomb, clique on cubes, banish, sheep, interrupt spells) and not running oom around at 50% boss hp spamming free rang 1 lb to procc a clearcast while chainjugging with a full bar of consumeables and buffs.
Hint: It might be really usefull, getting you all the heroic items and heroic drops, wearing mail and a shield, surving at least 1 common hit.
Here are some more or less easily obtainable items..
Helm: Shamanistic Helmet of Second Sight - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31107 - Quest
Neck: Brooch of Heightened Potential - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28134 - Shadow Lab
Shoulder: Pauldrons of Wild Magic - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32078 - Slave Pens HC
Chest: Worldfire Chestguard - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28391 - Arcatraz
Back: Shawl of Shifting Probabilities - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29369 - 25 badges
Bracer: Marshal's Mail Bracers - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28992 - Zerging PvP
Gloves: Thundercaller's Gauntlets - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31280 - 20g boe drop
Waist: Marshal's Mail Girdle - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28993 - Zerging PvP
Legs:Stormsong Kilt - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30541 - The Underbog HC
Feet: Marshal's Mail Sabatons - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28994 - Zerging PvP
Weapon: Gavel of Unearthed Secrets - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30832 - Lower City exalted
Shield: Mazthoril Honor Shield - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29268 - 33 badges
Finger1: Ring of Cryptic Dreams - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29367 - 25 badges
Finger2: Ring of Unrelenting Storms - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30667 - Karazhan random drop
Trinket1: Shiffar's Nexus-Horn - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28418 - Arcatraz
Trinket2: Icon of the Silver Crescent - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29370 - 41 badges
Totem: Totem of the Pulsing Earth - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29389 - 15 badges
or Totem of the Void - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28248 - Mechanar
Sum Up (assuming properly socketed): over 300 crit rating (13.xx% crit), over 700 spelldmg, a bunch of stam and int, around 20 spell penetration and spellhit (1.8x%). This should really do it for anything up untill deep SSC/TE (there are so many other options for some slots, just start browsing wowhead yourself and get those you are willing to spend time farming for). And all this without spending a single dkp
You should allways try to stay at high crit chance, because it's your only relieable manaregen source except chain jugging potions. Higher numbers may look awesome, but won't prevent you from getting oom.
Those numbers may not look that high, but there are some points, other could not think about while comparing:
- you receive 9% spellhit only from talents, another 3% from your totem of wrath (as well as 4 other members of your group)
- you receive 10% spellcrit only from your talents, another 3% from your totem of wrath (as well as 4 other members of your group)
- you receive over 100 spelldmg from your totem, as well as 4 other members of your group
- you have an increased critical strike bonus by 100%
Ending up with "easily" reaching 1000 spelldamage, 14% hit, 40% crit with good raiding gear for high and substainable damage and incredible (caster)group boosting options.
Is it worth it to level Dragonscale Leatherworking to 375 for the nether set, or will T4/Kara loot be better?
It's worth it. There really aren't good replacements for the Belt and Bracer slot, and the chestpiece is comparable to the T4 one, and gets you the +23 spell damage bonus.
To be honest though, my favorite part of the Netherstrike set is the hefty chunk of MP5 it comes with.
If you want to raid as an elemental shaman, picking up leather working for the Netherstrike set and the Hurricane Boots is a very good decision since you will not replace any of Netherstrike or Hurricane Boots for a long time. I would get started leveling leather working as soon as you can because it can be a pain to level once you get into the 350 area and any head start is nice.
Spell Pen?
Spell Penetration is totally and completely worthless in PVE and has never been proven to be useful in a single encounter.
On another note do not be worried to use cloth or leather items (Mostly cloth) if you do not have mail at hand.
Rotation theory
LB Spam over 60 seconds.
30 Casts of LB - 1442 DPS over 60 seconds.
LB/LB/LB/CL rotation over 60 seconds.
22 casts of LB & 10 casts of CL - 1574 dps over 59 seconds.
FS/LB/LB/LB/LB/LB/LB rotation over 60 seconds.
25 casts of LB & 5 casts of FS - 1475 dps over 57.5 seconds (When I added an extra LB, the DPS dropped to 1474 if someone with more time could look at why this happens on the spreadsheet I would be greatful)
Working on an feasible rotation for CL&FS integrated into LB spam, Spreadsheet is kicking out 1607 dps for a rotation containing 18 LBs, 10 CL's and 5 FS's over 58.5 seconds. Just need a bit of time to calculate when its possible to add in the CL&FS's. It does look to be a higher dmg rotation, however it looks like we'd have a hunter-style pain trying to weave these into the rotation (CL having to be cast on CD, and FS as soon as the DoT portion is finished), the may result in the loss of regular LB casts.
Also, the MPS is coming out at 228, which 1140Mp5 resulting in OOM in only 40seconds without Mp5 gear/Raid buffs. hmm.. maybe not possible to keep that sort of mana drain up for long - I'll work out exactly how long it's possible for me with full raid buffs to keep this up later, Although to be perfectly honest, the hassle this will cause in a raid enviroment, may result in more 'dropped' spells due to movement, lag, lack of mana etc etc. for only an extra 33dps. (Hmm, that would be pretty noticeable) - Watch this space.
Bare in mind that thoose dps numbers were pulled with 1000 spell damage and 42 % crit.